2007.02.28_PB_Minutes_Special
TOWN OF HIGHLAND BEACH
• PLANNING BOARD
SPECIAL MEETING
Wednesday February 28, 2007 9:30 a.m.
Chairman Leonard O. Townsend called the Regular Meeting to order in Commission
Chambers at 9:30 a.m. Present were Chair Townsend, Louis Stern, Victor Hadeed,
Marie Marchesani and Patricia Pembroke. Ken Tapman was absent. Also present was
Town Attorney Tom Sliney and Building Official Bob Dawson.
OLD BUSINESS
PRELIMINARY REVIEW FOR 12,000 LB., FOUR POST BOAT LIFTS FOR TWO
PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 1107 RUSSELL DRIVE #A & #B, LOT 17. OWNERS:
JOSEPH P. CORY (#A) AND FRANCIS J. CICCARONE (#B)
APPLICANT: BOCA DOCK & SEAWALL.
These applications were previously considered by the Planning Board at its November
8, 2006 Regular Meeting, its December 13, 2006 Workshop Meeting and its February
14, 2007 Public Hearing Meeting, with respect to weather the applications. should be
considered using provisions of the code addressing parallel or perpendicular conditions.
At the November 8 meeting, Attorney Larry Corman opined that the application should
• be considered using perpendicular docking provisions. The Board will provide an
advisory recommendation for consideration by the Town Commission who will consider
the two applications as a special exception. At the February 14, 2007 meeting, the
Board requested a site visit to personally view the property, which will be conducted at
this time. The Board recessed at 9:44 a.m. to conduct subject site visit.
The Board reconvened at 10:23 a.m. for consideration of the two subject applications.
Chair Townsend noted that the site visit included visitation to the sites and walked along
the canal to see first hand the existing condition of the canal and boats which are
docked perpendicular at the end. Also noted there were no examples of a four post boat
lift, but it would be similar to a series of posts east of Mr. Cory's property.
Chair read letter from Dolores V. Gardella into the record (attached hereto and made a
part of these minutes). Chair also received a letter dated Feb 23 from Sadi Spadafina
(attached hereto and made a part of these minutes.)
Public Participation
Recording Secretary swore in all who would be testifying.
Joseph Cory: Believes residents entitled to riparian rights -have access beyond seawall
to do something within a certain amount of space beyond seawall. Mr. Sliney noted that
the Town has jurisdiction over canals which is why the Town is trying to decide if it
• should allow perpendicular or keep parallel docking.
Planning Board
• February 28, 2007 Page 2 of 4
Kathleen Eibl - 4201 S. Ocean: submitted petition showing 8 disapproval signatures from
Camino Cove residents. She also submitted two letters of disapproval. (all attached).
(unknown)- spoke about anchoring a boat to the center of the canal and tying it off to
both sides of the canal during a hurricane. The aesthetic appearance of lifts is
unattractive. Boat needs to be lifted out 2-3 feet, plus the height of the boat -boat is up
7124 and down only when it is going to be used.
Phil Weinstein 4504 S. Ocean Drive, Camino Cove -there is enough room to place all
boats in the middle of the canal. Boats up on lifts block views and is aesthetic
unpleasing.
Chair Townsend noted that one of the arguments going to perpendicular is that there is
not enough lineal footage along canal to more all the boats, so if all were put in the
middle of the canal, there wouldn't be enough room.
Debbie Weinberg, .1117 Russell Dr. -purchased townhouse for beauty of canal and
views. If there were lifts there prior to purchasing, she would not have done so.
Kimberly Dawson -noted perpendicular docking is allowed at the end of the canals and
• 50 feet in from the end. Perpendicular docking will not block views, but putting up on
lifts will.
Mr. Cory commented that if every property owner had a boat, there would not be enough
room for parallel docking. Also bringing boats to center of canal and tying off is very
difficult, and infringing on others properties because of the need to use their docks.
Ken Wells noted that tying off in the center of the canal, would take at least 4-6 lines and
is really physically impossible to do. He also noted that sometimes the lines can pull a
dock into the waterway.
Chair Townsend noted a letter from John J. Youle against application. A letter from
Graham Guthrie who is also against application. (both letters attached hereto and made
a part of these minutes.)
Chair Townsend asked for a motion to either recommend approval, recommend approval
with conditions or recommend disapproval for the applications.
The following MOTION was made by MRS. PEMBROKE/MRS. MARCHESANI:
THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDS TO THE TOWN COMMISSION
NOT TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE 12,000 LB., .FOUR
• POST BOAT LIFTS FOR TWO PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 1107
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Planning Board
February 28. 2007 Page 3 of 4
RUSSELL DRIVE, LOT 17, #A, OWNER: JOSEPH P. CORY AND #B,
OWNER FRANCIS J. CICCARONE. APPLICANT FOR BOTH: BOCA
DOCK & SEAWALL.
Upon discussion it was noted that the lifts are ugly, and the area is a beautiful area and
can understand why the residents want to protect. However, mooring boats at a 75
degree angle, access can be made to the boats with heard testimony, some
homeowners- may be inconvenienced, so maybe say its a safety issue, but ugly, and
perhaps something .could be done as planting trees to obscure view of lifts.
The following MOTION and ROLLCALL VOTE was taken to NOT RECOMMEND
approval of the following application:
THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDS TO THE TOWN COMMISSION NOT
TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE 12,000 LB., FOUR POST
BOAT LIFT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1107 RUSSELL DRIVE, LOT
17, #A, OWNER: JOSEPH P. CORY. APPLICANT: BOCA DOCK &
SEAWALL.
Mr. Stern
• Mrs. Pembroke
Mrs. Marchesani
Mr. Hadeed
Mr. Townsend
yes
yes
yes Motion carried 4/1
yes
no
THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDS TO THE TOWN COMMISSION
NOT TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE 12,000 LB., FOUR
POST BOAT LIFTS FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1107 RUSSELL
DRIVE, LOT 17, #B, OWNER FRANCIS J. CICCARONE. APPLICANT:
BOCA DOCK & SEAWALL.
Mrs. Pembroke yes
Mrs. marchesani yes
Mr. Hadeed yes Motion carried 4/1
Mr. Stern yes
Mr. Townsend no
A transmittal letter will be forwarded to the Town Commission noting the Planning Boards
recommendations.
Discussion of the Byrd Beach Estates matter was discussed, with a possible date of
Friday, April 27 scheduled. Recording secretary will be in contact with members to
• determine a definite date.
Planning Board
• February 28, 2007 Page 4 of 4
With no further business to come before the Board, MOTION to adjourn was made by
MR. TOWNSEND/MR. HADEED at 11:30 A.M.
APPROVE:
Leonard O. Townsend, Ch
Victor P. Hadeed
Louis P. Stern
Patricia A. Pembroke
Ken Tapman
Marie Marchesani
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Att3a_ M.r, `t'ain~nsend, ~"haitmau, :N[eil., Mr. l~adc~.c.[, Mr. `4.er3a, Miss Pe:z~bake
f1!ir. 'f'aprrtan., Miss Marchcsant, Mr. ~;liney
[l.c: A.pplicatiox3 Far L~oat l:i.fts
Tear A![r, 'k'czw~rsend astd [~lanrzit>:~ Board Metxtbcrs~
1. a3•n addresshls; the applicatioza fear beat lifts Whicl3 was discussed at the l';ehruary l 4, 2()07
znreting. 1: would li:fee to re~istk~r several. cc>t~e.crr-s t:e[;arditag the ec?zlse:cluet3e:es of appravin~ this
applicatian.
The first. conccrtl i:s aes#:hetics. l~aaters have ate expressian, "[-Ti~h.lancl. Aeael~ is a boater's
paradise". The meann.~ of 1:he, ward. ".karadise'" >r~car3s perfection.. Why da they Want. to destroy
a lx;auti:tul carra.l :Ei'it's perfect? '7'b.e canals were crc~•atcd :faz• evcry'ane to e:njay, not just far
beaters. l~3oatet:s have the privilege to use i.t, 3tot t~ ,destroy-the beauty it affers• TYte .resi.det~ts a.1:
the meeting Were ail. heaters atxd ixz favor of the a[a[xli~atian.~ [can. clearly see Wh.~:re this r~vill lead
to M "a polluted corral. tutr3.ecl into a pczll:uted txxaritta".
'l~he boaters zaaentioncd hurrica3aes. There .has t:3evcx 1•recn cane boat: lost iz~ our cereal.. lt: was very
convenient {cir boaters tc~ say their heats ~vve;re cia3~zageci. 1. have never heard of one boat that. has
• horn daz~'taged itt our car3ak. 1 Dave been liv:iz~zs~ t7. T.-ki.~];~Ia~:d..[icacl'a for 29 years a3ad have been.
quite a.ctivc itt the camrrtur~i8.y far f-i_fteett years. ~J:nfartunately, I had a xzumlaer of aperatiarts
wla.icla left n•3e disa[aled. 1 ern. l~om.ebau.3ad and the atzly p:keasure f. ~?et is to sit ot~ the parch with.
zny beaks quasi lank at the: beaxxt:iful ca3aal fczr k3.:ki:ttlc e.njc?yrnent.
Boaters aren't the ataly people Who should ea~lsay li:vittl; czx3 a cax3al, espeClakly Whext they Want to
t:alie the plcasuxc away :fa-azn other restdetrts. boaters Wataf: the luxury at the c;i>st e~f atherS..l1.tl
these t~za.sighily ohst:ac~les ita c.artals dc~ zaot i~~c:re:~se t:~3~._ti7a.l.ue c>:f_yc~ut~haan.e,_, The value: is izi
repair:inl; dac~:s, }?a:intiza[~ the exterior of y<zur l~czu5~, a:reatirzl; t~eaatifial l.andscapin~, a31d
rrzaitatai3aitag abeautiful, expansive water vie~xi, It seems that the lwaters want mare space for
tk3ei.r boats tlaa3a tl~.eir awn property permits by para.ll.el dockage ar-d they also Want tc, lower. their
€,wn ma.intena#ace:. fees fc~r their heats by ttsittg li:ft:s. 'l~laey seem to be very .happy to sacrifice the
heau.ty azad views aftlae cazya.l fc~r everyone else. - aaa extre3ne:ly selfish ta~ative at hest!
F~.not.h~r cansaern 3s'`aCCC:sS"..ln the event sxf att. etaaergency, if all the baa#;ers' boats are docked. in.
a perpendi.ctt:lar fashion out in to tlac canal.. it •wcaul_d. be dif~cul.t. to irrtpossible to get: quick access
to lh.e dwellings fa.citag this canal. ~.dditis>nally, tlacrs~ leave been titres that a baxl;e..had. to cazaae
#.a iza:stall pil.i:rlgs for a house atzd also t:a repai.r scaWalls. !~ barge Wau.ld na#. be able to tutee in our
canal. I knave this because .1 needed tcz ha~Te pi.liza,~s i3astallyd fezr. zny house. The barge Wa.s I42'
Lang anal la.ad c133:i.te a. bit af_ strttggkin~; to turn. a:raund tea face tlae .in.tercaastal waterway. f txtagine
if obstacles Wersy in tlae way, lulane:uveriza~; bctat:s, iza general, undex tlac prs>ps?scd conditions
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I~!Ir. 'I'apnzan, Miss Marclzesaz~.i., Ma'. Sliney
Rc: flpplication E'or T3oat T..ifts
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w®ulc# lie much rr~ore di:F~'i.cutt and. dan.gercx~as,. ~ioss:hly~ ca~sira~; the daanz3~;e our boaters wexe
afraid of,
A third ccznc:enx i5 that al:l t•esidetats of c7ur com~.nuni.t~,~ ~rere trot givexz t:h~ }~ropcr (os~ perhaps atxy)
noti~ca.tiozl about this appl:ication_ ~E'hese ;resiclez~ls ove;rlc~ok oizr canals az~d have th.e rift to
know what is ling requested.
atn nQt a~n7are of the :axles and. policies ~c>uc~nitx~ these waters. l~lav~rcver, I did. leans thai:l;he
city o!'Nnrth Miami h.as a "sat-back" .n~l.e :lc.~r boat l:ifis encl. iollovas the "D-5 '.l'tia,nl;le"
requ.irezncnt 'For goat l..ii'ts. Teo we, in l~a.h~z I3cacin. ~:'.c.~urzl:y, also .follow these rc.gui:rcrnents a.ncl. if
so, are these boaters telling witl~iix the luidelitxes ol't:lxese~: requireznenf.s? ~ J:eel this issue needs
much mare re;searcl~ and cons%deration before snaking aa:ty decisio~as.
Pinal.ly, F would like to appeal to the l3rrarci'S zxr-derstandi.~ag and concez-zs :Eo.r each .reside~.t.'s
quality of life: az~d ezivix•ontz~.ezzt. 1 live: alcins;, c;a~a~~crt gr~ any-wl}ez•e for fitn ox enjoy~ncnt. I~!ly canly
pleasure is lcsok.ing at, tlle; clean canal. wi.thc~ui: cibstruc~:ia~ns. IVIy view and. the view of others wi]I
be grc;a;tly 2~bstxu-cted with t~nsigl~t;ly ~.;tru.ctxsrc;s anal car~~xzp:mer~t..My ou:ty pleasure w€1.1 be tak:e~~
away from me with. boats lifted in tnid air }aract.icall.y :lax tl~e rzliddle of the canal, oz~, pilings,
davits, posts, a.nd cranes,
l would. apl~rcc.iatc the ctxznmitl:ce givi:r~tg this issue seriotas c;onside;rai.ion to protect they canals of
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CAMINO COVE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION
442fl-4506 South Ocean Blvd. & I 1 I3-1117 Russell Drive
DISSAPPROVE of angled docks 8tlor Lifts in Camino Cove
APPROVE of angled docks &/oi lifts in Camino Covt
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February 28, 2007
• Graham Guthrie
4500 S. Ocean Blvd.
Highland Beach, FL 3487
Highland Beach Planning Board
Re: boat lift application
Members of the Board;
I was at your prior meeting and spoke against the captioned proposal which is the
subject of your meeting today, and since I cannot attend today, I would like to submit
the following comments in addition to the ones I made previously.
Most surprisingly, I have learned that insurance industry statistics apparently
indicate that the conventional wisdom, openly accepted at the prior meeting, as to the
safety of boats on lifts in a hurricane situation, is not true, and that they are, if anything,
less safe on a lift than with other more conventional hurricane protection methods.
This leaves only one viable reason to grant the request, and that is so that the boat
owner can keep a bigger boat on our canal than would otherwise be possible. This
dovetauls nicely with the desire of all canal-front homeowners to eventually sell their
property for the highest possible profit, but this reasoning does not justify approval.
I question whether it is wise for the town to take a course which will ultimately
change the nicest long canal view in the town into one mostly blocked by side-by-side
boats with a relatively narrow water view down the middle. If the insurance statistics I
noted are correct, the eventual overcrowding will also mean quantum leaps in the total
dollar amount of damages suffered by local boats (and maybe the homes they float into)
in the next several hurricanes to hit this area. Every boat owner's rates will rise
dramatically.
I understand that the majority of owners of property along the canal signed
approvals of the action sought, but there was no indication that any of them received
explanations of the pros and cons to enable an informed judgment. In any event, our
leaders should be just that, leaders, not followers of those who may vote their own
financial interests to the detriment of the less tangible, but no less important, interests of
the town. Without any legitimate improvement in boat saf to be gained from
approval of this request, it should be denied.
• Graham Guthrie
Feb-2707 05:15P ConsultAndes
TO:
FAX NUMBER:
FROM:
FAX NUMBER:
TELEPHONE NUMBER:
DATE:
511 445 9044 P.O1
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Kathy Eibl von Rospeunt
001-561-278-6246
John 8 Ines Youle
51-1-445-9044
51-1-9945-8292
February 27, 2007
RE: Strong Opposition to Proposal to Permit Boats to Angle at
75 Degrees and Install Electric Lifts
We are totally opposed to the proposal to radically change the long-
standing arrangement for boat docking on the cove behind Camino
Cove.
• This proposal to permit boats to angle at 75 degrees and to install
boat lifts would be ugly and would totally transform our quiet cove into
a marina. As a result, it could negatively impact the value of our
property and others in our neighborhood.
We purchased our home more than eighteen years ago. We do not
want the atmosphere of our cove to be totally changed because of
the selfish wishes of two homeowners, who have no consideration for
their neighbors or our development.
Please represent us at the town meeting on Wednesday evening,
February 28~' and make know our strongest opposition to this
ridiculous proposal.
Jdhn J. Y le
Ca ino Co Unit #1
4418 Sout Ocean Boulevard
Highland Beach, FL 33487
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