1985.05.14_TC_Minutes_SpecialTOWN OF HIGHLAND BEACH, FLORIDA
Minutes of Meeting of Town Commission
SPECIAL MEETING
Tuesda , May 14, 1985 2:00 P.M.
A Special Meeting of the Highland Beach Town Commission was called to
order by Mayor Edward J. Sullivan at 2:00 p.m. in the Town Commission
Chambers at Town Hall. Also present were Vice Mayor Mary Louise G.
Blosser, and Commissioners John J. Basso, William A. Grier and Betty
Jean Stewart.
Also present were Town Attorney Thomas E. Sliney; Town Manager Hugh D.
Williams; Town Clerk Mary Ann Whaley; Town Building Official Bruce
Sutherland and approximately ninety members of the general public.
Mayor Sullivan noted the three items on the Agenda, stating that the
public in attendance were apparently there for the first item, being
the discussion regarding the applications for rooftop satellite
television dishes from Monterey House and Seagate. Mayor Sullivan
explained the protocol to be used for this meeting, indicating that
statements would be heard from the Planning Board, Building Department,
Town Counsel, Town Commission, representatives from Monterey House and
Seagate (each being given a ten minute limitation on any presentation).
Further, statements from the representatives from the Empire Group (the
~upplier of the proposed dishes) would be entertained.
Mayor Sullivan gave the background of this issue, stating that the
applications for proposed rooftop satellite dishes on Monterey House
and Seagate had been given approval by the Community Appearance Board,
but had failed to gain the approval of the Planning Board, on the basis
that the approval of all such rooftop installations created a hazard to
life and property. Mayor Sullivan also stated that depending on the
desires of the applicants, should they desire to pursue the rooftop
installation, then the Town Commission would be involved. However,
should, after the discussions today, the applicants may desire to
pursue another additional route i.e. ground mounted antenna, then the
Town Commission would not be involved.
Mr. John Ward, member of the Planning Board, was the first to address
the issue. Mr. Ward stated that the two issues involved in the
Planning Board's disapproval were (1) that according to the Town Code,.
Section 9.12(1), it is clearly stated that for anything other than
ground mounted antennae, additional approval must be given by the Town
Commission; and (2) that according to the Standard Building Code, the
wind load pressure factor must be 48 lbs. and 58 lbs., however were
submitted at only 20 lbs.
Commissioner Grier read the Motion of the Planning Board into the re-
cord which is incorporated in the transcript of the May 8, 1985 Plan-
ing Board Meeting, which transcript is made a part of these Minutes.
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Mr. Dan Vargas, Vice-President of The Empire Group of Boynton Beach
then addressed the Town Commission, stating that his firm felt all
criteria had been met and all codes complied with when the plan had
been submitted to Highland Beach for consideration. It was further
claimed by Mr. Vargas that a typographical error had been made on the
plans indicating a 20 lb. wind pressure factor, when in fact, the
figure stated should have read 48 lbs. on one set of plans and 58 lbs.
on the other.
Town Attorney Sliney indicated that it was his opinion that the
Planning Board would not approve any rooftop installations due to the
safety factors involved, which in the Town Attorney's opinion was a
legitimate basis., as the Planning Board is charged with the
responsibility of reviewing all safety aspects of any application.
Also, Mr. Sliney indicated that he felt the Town Commission should not
be involved in the pending requests until both the Community Appearance
Board and the Planning Board had approved the plans. Mr. Sliney noted
that the Town Commission could possibly handle this matter as a Special
Exception and go back to the Planning Board regarding the placement of
any dish. (Subsequent to this meeting, at the 6/6/85 Town Commission
Regular Meeting, it was directed that a copy of Attorney Sliney's May
• 10, 1985 opinion letter be attached to these Minutes and made a part
hereof.
Responding to inquiries, Mr. Vargas noted that the effectiveness of any
satellite antennae dish would not be minimized by a ground mounting.
Mr. Maher Al-Soufi of Weyant and Associates, Engineers retained by The
Empire Group addressed the Town Commission reiterating the comments
made by Mr. Vargas as to the dish design being adequate and in
compliance with existing codes. When questioned by Town Manager
Williams as to the formula used to determine the wind load factors (as
there were alternative methods noted in the Standard Building Code),
Mr. Al-Soufi did not have the information but agreed to supply the Town
with documentation as to the criteria and calculations used in this
project. When discussing the actual rooftop installation, it was
stated by Mr. Vargas that no damage would occur to the roof and that
the dishes would be anchored to existing walls, in one case an elevator
wall, and in the other a stairwell wall. It was not verified by the
Building Official that either of these walls were solid poured concrete
walls, although the plans had indicated that they were.
Mr. Frank Edwards, representing Monterey House, indicated that the
stairwell wall was solid concrete to his knowledge. Mr. Edwards further
stated that to ground mount the dish would not be acceptable to the
residents of Monterey House. Upon inquiry by Commissioner Grier as to
whether Mr. Edwards or the condominium association he represented had
considered any liability insurance to cover damage either to their own
building or to bystanders which might be affected, Mr. Edwards and Mr.
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Rhinehart, President of the Association, stated that they felt their
existing liability policy indicated that anything attached to the
structure was covered. Upon questioning by Mayor Sullivan as to
whether they had ever considered ground mounting the dish, Mr. Edwards
indicated that they had considered it but it was the desire of the
association to have the dish on the roof and out of the way.
Mrs. Jane Rayner of Seagate then addressed the Town Commission
indicating that when the dish project had begun, both safety and
appearance considerations were of prime concern. Mrs. Rayner stated
that her association had accepted the advice of the satellite dish
company that all requirements had been met and all codes complied with.
Mrs. Rayner stated that one of the main reasons for their desire to
have the dish installed on the roof was that due to the configuration
of Seagate, the dish could only be seen from limited locations in Boca
Raton. Mrs. Rayner stated that several residents objected to looking
down at the satellite dish should it be placed on the ground. Mr.
Edwards also noted that this was the general feeling of the residents
at Monterey House. Mrs. Rayner asked that the Town Commission examine
each application individually rather than together due to the
appearance factors involved. Upon question of Vice Mayor Blosser, Mrs.
Rayner noted that both roof and ground mounting had been considered
prior to their request for rooftop mounting. Vice Mayor Blosser asked
whether the applicants would be amenable to re-applying with ground
mounted plans if all re-application fees were waived. Mrs. Rayner
indicated that she could not answer this question without first
discussing it with the Board of Directors of the Seagate Condominium
Association.
Commissioner Grier then noted the different methods which had been
chosen by various condominiums since Centel Communications gained
ownership of the Highland Beach Cable Television company, and noted
the different considerations which had been studied by the various
associations. Commissioner Grier questioned whether considerations of
interfering with recreational space, or the view from the condominium
units was proper justification for requesting a rooftop mounting. He
further noted that he was in agreement with the Town Attorney that the
applicants explore the special exception route and mount the dishes on
the ground.
Mr. Sutherland, Building Official, noted that a special exception may
not be in order at this time inasmuch as it had not been established
that the setbacks were an issue. As far as the typographical error on
the plans, Mr. Sutherland noted that he had accepted the plans and the
certification of the engineer. Mayor Sullivan noted that the certifi-
cation of an engineer should not automatically be accepted if any
problem arose. It was noted that Mr. Sutherland had pointed out the
problem as soon as he noticed it.
~~aMr. Albert Schiff, resident of Seagate, as well as Chairman of the
Board of Adjustment, addressed the Town Commission (inasmuch as Mrs.
Rayner had not used up her ten minute allocation) stating that the Town
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Mr. Schiff, responding at the request of Mrs. Rayner, stated that he
felt this was not the answer, and that the Town Commission should re-
solve whether they would allow dishes on rooftops or not: Mr. Schiff
requested that the Town Commission either allow the rooftop installa-
tion or deny it.
Commissioner Stewart again indicated that the plans had been modified
and must be reconsidered as amended by the appropriate boards.
Attorney Sliney stated that he did not agree with Mr. Schiff and felt
that the Town Commission did not have jurisdiction of this matter due
to the fact that the code stated that "approvals" are required by both
the Community Appearance Board and Planning Commission, not just
"recommendations". Attorney Sliney further stated that inasmuch as the
plans had been amended and other data had been requested by the Town
Manager as to calculation methods used, etc., the Planning Board should
reevaluate this issue. This was the consensus of the Town Commission
also.
MOTION was then made by COMMISSIONER GRIER/COMMISSIONER BASSO to recom-
mend to the applicants that they re-agply to the Planning Board in
light of the amended plan and .the additional information requested,
which includes engineers documentation on calculations for wind load
factors, nature of the existing walls on the roofs, and other factors
as brought out in this meeting. The Town Clerk called the roll on this
MOTION with all Commissioners voting aye. The MOTION carried unani-
mously.
It was also the consensus of the Town Commission that all fees involved
in this re-application will be waived, and that the applicants should
simultaneously submit new plans for a ground mounted dish along with
the amended plans for the rooftop installation for expediency in re-
solving this matter. Mr. Sutherland also expressed the desire for an
outside engineering firm to review the plans, however, this could be
accomplished in a matter of days. The applicants were assured by the
Town Commission that the matter would be handled as quickly as possible
upon the submission of the requested materials.
Mr. Art Sholtz, resident of Seagate of Highland indicated his dissatis-
faction that the Town Commission had not made a determination as to
whether the dishes were going to be allowed on rooftops or not.
A ten minute recess was then taken by the Town Commission before con-
tinuing with the Agenda.
Commissioner Grier then made a statement that he felt Special Meetings
should not be called except in extreme cases of emergency inasmuch as
~he calling of these meetings created an imposition on the Town
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Commission as well as the staff. Commissioner Grier cited that this
meeting had been called on Friday and that he had received over 100
pages of technical material collated by the staff to review.
The next matter discussed involved the Highland Beach/Delray Beach
Sewer Issue. Commissioner Basso read a letter dated April 17, 1985
from Greeley and Hansen to both the Town of Highland Beach and the City
of Delray Beach, transmitting the completed sewer study report into the
record. Commissioner Basso further read a letter from Barbara Hall,
Assistant City Attorney for Delray Beach to the Town dated May 8, 1985
indicating their dissatisfaction with the completed report and intent
to appeal to Greeley and Hansen for additional changes. Ms. Hall's
letter further indicated that they would accept the Town's check in the
amount of $160,000.00 as per the Stipulation, which would not represent
Delray's acceptance of the final report. Attorney Sliney indicated his
disapproval of the action now being taken by Delray, as it is his
opinion that this report was final and should conclude the matter pend-
ing the payment method. Attorney Sliney indicated that he had spoken
with Mr. Dynslager of Greeley and Hansen who agreed with him on this
point. Mr. Dynslager indicated that the debt service charge being
questioned by Delray Beach might be a point, however, he felt this
matter had no bearing on the final report and the self-adjusting
formula arrived at. Attorney Sliney requested that he be allowed to
write a letter to Mr. Dynslager confirming his conversation wherein
~oth parties agreed that this was indeed a final report, with a copy of
such letter being forwarded to Ms. Hall, and requesting a return letter
from Mr. Dynslager confirming such fact. Attorney Sliney requested
that upon the receipt of a confirming letter from Mr. Dynslager, such
letter be copied along with a cover letter to Delray Beach, requesting
that both parties jointly file the final report with the court in
compliance with the court's order. Commissioner Stewart indicated that
Attorney Sliney compose his letter to Mr. Dynslager in such a way as to
make a definite statement about the finality of the report, rather than
posing a question about its status. It was the consensus of the Town
Commission that Attorney Sliney's recommendation be approved and that
this would be the best route to take at this time.
The Town Manager then reported on County Sanitation's desire to extend
their option on the garbage contract an additional five years bringing
the expiration date to 1990. Mr. Williams further noted that County
Sanitation was requesting two changes, one being allowed to proportion-
ately increase the fees as tipping fees were increased, and the other
being a cost-of-living increase in the fees each year. Discussion
ensued regarding past experiences in not being able to prove the actual
load weights being removed from the Town, discussion regarding the pay-
ment for unsold units, etc. Commissioner Stewart indicated that this
matter needed further study and was inappropriate for a Special
Meeting, requesting that this matter be placed on the May Workshop
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Agenda.
Special Meeting
Mr. Williams then recommended that a time clock be installed in the
administrative building at Town Hall, and that the hours of operation
for all employees (excepting the Police and Utilities Department) be
changed to 8:00 a.m. until 4:00 p.m. Mr. Williams asked that the Town
Commission consider this and let him know their opinions on this
matter. Commissioner Basso expressed opposition to both of these items,
however, the remainder of the Town Commission did not express any
opinions at this time. The matter will be studied further.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned on proper
Motion and second at 4:45 p.m. ~ /~-'\
APPROVED:
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Edward J. Su~li a
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Mayor
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William A. Grier,~`Commissioner
Bet Jean Stewart, Commissioner
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Re: Satellite Television Antennae
Systems Approval
With regard to the current applications for roof-top satellite
television antennae systems which were reviewed by the Planning
Commission on May 8, 1985, I have the following thoughts:
1. This particular topic comes under Section 9-12.1
Satellite Television Antennae Systems and under Section 8.3(d)
of Chapter 30, Plans for Accessory Structures, etc.
2. 8.3(d)(4) provides that the Building Official shall
issue the Building Permit after receiving approvals from the
Community Appearance Board and the Planning Board. In this
particular case the Planning Board declined to approve the
application based primarily on safety considerations and on
inadequate engineering. The Building Official also indicated
that he believed the engineering calculations submitted by the
engineer with the application were in error and did not meet
the Town's standards.
3. As the Planning Board did not approve the application
the Building Official is not in a position to issue the Building
Permit.
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Mr. Hugh Williams
Page Two May 10, 1985
4. The primary concern evidenced at the meeting was that
of safety in that the proposed television antennae dishes were
to be mounted on top of the condominiums concerned. There does
not appear to be any similar concern with regard to mounting those
T.V. dishes on the ground although it was indicated that there
may be placement problems with the dishes located on the ground.
It would be my feeling that this matter could be handled as a
special exception under Section 9 of Chapter 30 of the Zoning Code.
The Town Commission under this Section would have the jurisdiction
to review this matter and take care of any location or placement
problems.
5. Assuming that the location and placement problems were
satisfied, the Condominiums could then resubmit plans for a ground
level dish pursuant to 8.3(d) and Section 9-12.1 and process
their plans in accordance with those Sections.
I think that the foregoing will provide a solution to this
problem and hopefully bring satisfaction to all concerned. It
would be my suggestion that a copy of this letter be distributed
to the Presidents of both condominiums prior to the Special
Meeting on May 14, 1985.
TES:mbh
Very truly yours,
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Thomas E. Sliney
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