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TOWN OF HIGHLAND BEACH, FLORIDA
PLANNING BOARD
REGULAR MEETING - MINUTES
March 9, 1988 10:15 A.M.
The Regular Meeting of the Planning Board, Town of Highland Beach,
Florida, was called to order by Chairman Ward in the Commission Chambers
at Town Hall at 10:15 A.M.
The Recording Secretary called the roll. Present were Regular Members
J. E. Ward, A. Leng, M. A. Waldman, A. R. Keller and Alternate Member R.
M. Gregerson who acted in the capacity of a Regular Member. Alternate
Member A. J. Harbin was absent.
Also present were Town Attorney T. E. Sliney, Building Official B.
Sutherland, Recording Secretary A. Kowals and members of the general
public.
MOTION was made by MR. GREGERSON/MR. KELLER to approve the Minutes of
the February 10, 1988, Planning Board Regular Meeting and the February
24, 1988, Planning Board Public Hearing, as submitted. The MOTION
carried unanimously with favorable votes.
NEW BUSINESS
Chairman Ward noted an application was submitted by Centel Cable T. V.
Company of Florida for a site plan review for a satellite dish (which
had already been installed) behind Town Hall at 3614 South Ocean
Boulevard.
Town Attorney Sliney advised that he spoke with Town Manager Mariano and
found some discrepancy regarding the approval of the satellite dishes.
The Cable Franchise Agreement of 1984 stated one satellite dish was
authorized. In checking Town records, that agreement was not approved
for the second dish and now, there is a third dish. In 1983, there was
a proposed amendment to the Ground Lease calling for an amendment to
permit installation of a second dish. Under the documentation that we
are aware of, there is only one dish that is authorized to be there at
the present time. Attorney Sliney said his records do not indicate that
an amendment was ever signed and approved and that is the main discrep-
ancy. They are seeking an additional dish (whether it is the second or
third) when our documents indicate they have been authorized to have one
dish behind Town Hall, continued Attorney Sliney.
Chairman Ward stated that he went to the site and observed three satel-
lite dishes behind the Town Hall. Building Official Sutherland advised
that since his employment with the Town in February, 1984, there have
been two satellite dishes installed behind the Town Hall complex prior
to that date. The third dish was a matter between the Cable Company and
the Former Town Manager who said that because the dish was for the
general use of the Town, it was not necessary to follow the procedures
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of the Town Code. Building Official Sutherland stated the third dish
which is 12' in diameter, was installed on December 4, 1987.
Mr. Dan Poppell, service technician for this area, stated he is the
public relations person when problems arise in the Town. The Cable Co.
was notified of a new satellite in the atmosphere which required
channels be switched. A third dish was required to accommodate the
change. Mr. Poppell discussed the matter with the former Town Manager
who gave verbal approval for the installation of the third dish. Upon
questioning, Mr. Poppell advised the Board that he was never required to
get approvals wherever he worked.
Continuing, Mr. Poppell informed the Members that the second dish was in
place when Centel Cable purchased the system from Highland Beach Cable
in 1984/85. This third dish, said Mr. Poppell, is being used to con-
tinue the service the Town already receives; it is to maintain the same
channels and level of reception. The largest dish in that location has
the least number of channels on it; it is dying, and when it does, we
will have that dish free to add more services into the Town (the addi-
tional services, where we are trying to go from 36 to 45 channels,
should be available within the next 60 days). Mr. Poppell added that he
does not see where the Town will require more dishes than it now has.
• Building Official Sutherland stated he had the engineers drawings with
the specifications of the foundation and this is a better installation
in that the pipe is in the ground with reinforcing lines which makes it
very secure.
Chairman Ward noted that the Board can not act on this matter at this
time as Town Attorney Sliney advised it should go before the Town
Commission and any equipment that is place in that location should be in
accordance with the Ground Lease Agreement. Until the Town Commission
reviews that agreement, the Planning Board does not have jurisdiction in
this matter, continued Attorney Sliney.
A memorandum was forwarded to the Town Commission from the Planning
Board on March 10, 1988, requesting clarification of the Ground Lease
Agreement, per Town Attorney Sliney's recommendation.
Following a brief recess called by Chairman Ward, the Regular Meeting of
the Planning Board reconvened at 10:50 A.M.
Chairman Ward informed the Board Members that he received a letter of
resignation from Alternate Member Anna J. Harbin.
Chairman Ward stated that he received a memorandum from Mayor Stewart,
dated March 3, 1988, stating the Mayor would like the Board to prepare a
notebook so each member will have compact information pertaining to the
Planning Board.
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In a discussion regarding the time period that the developers have in
which to pull a permit (following receipt of all necessary approvals),
Mr. Waldman stated a memorandum concerning that matter had been
submitted to the Town Commission in 1986. Town Attorney Sliney said the
Members should send whatever recommendations they have to the Town
Commission, and if the Town Commission feels it is necessary to change
that part of the code, the Planning Board would then be required to have
a full set of public hearings as this issue can not be treated as an
administrative matter.
Attorney Sliney informed the Members that the Town tried to combine the
Byrd Beach Section of Highland Beach into one category (RE); however,
that was not feasible as the lot sizes on the West side of A-1-A were
too narrow. That area must be rezoned officially from RS to RE as they
are building that property according to the RE zoning. This matter
should be scheduled by the Planning Board so that it can be resolved,
continued Attorney Sliney.
Chairman Ward said the memo forwarded to the Town Commission in 1986
regarding the time period allowed for developers to pull a permit should
be reconsidered as should the matter of the setbacks. Attorney Sliney
stated there are three items that must be addressed and perhaps they may
be able to accomplish that in one public hearing.
• Chairman Ward noted some changes have occurred on the Planning Board and
it is necessary to reassign the elements to be researched by the
Members. Vice Chairman Leng was requested to assume the complete cate-
gory of Beach Erosion and Conservation of the Mangroves inasmuch as Mrs.
Harbin has resigned from the Board. When Vice Chairman Leng noted that
the Coastal Management/Conservation Element contains all the information
in it, Chairman Ward suggested Vice Chairman Leng make an independent
study to determine if it is valid or not.
Chairman Ward requested Mr. Keller research the Traffic Element on A-1-A
which was originally assigned to Mr. Bartlett who has since resigned
from the Planning Board.
Mr. Gregerson stated he was assigned the Hurricane category and he is
pleased with the information he has read and compiled regarding this
matter.
City Planner Jim Park and John Toshner of Gee and Jenson arrived at the
meeting at 11:00 A.M.
Chairman Ward noted the Members would like to start on the Sanitary
Sewer, Solid Waste, Drainage, Potable Water and Natural Groundwater
Aquifer Recharge Element.
Mr. Toshner advised they have submitted several section to the Town and
• other reports will be forthcoming by the end of the month (within the
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next 30 days). Jim Park had been putting together Chapter 9J-5 and we
will probably have two more elements by the end of the month, said Mr.
Toshner. The last element is Future Land Use and Capital Improvements.
We do not envision major capital expenditures necessary to implement
your plan. We should be able to wrap up all the elements and be in a
position to fine tune and polish up the maps within the next 60 days,
continued Mr. Toshner.
The Housing, Conservation and Recreation Elements submitted, said Mr.
Toshner, are partial elements and they are still being worked on; the
Coastal Management Element is complete. Mr. Park noted that the
Utilities Element is complete except for the Sanitary Sewage section;
the completed Elements will be available at the next meeting of the
Planning Board in April.
Chairman Ward stated the Members would review the Sanitary Sewer Element
and ask questions regarding the submission.
When Mr. Waldman asked Mr. Toshner if it would be possible for Highland
Beach to get some official figure, as a result of all the studies re-
garding Solid Waste, possible Growth, etc., from Gee and Jenson saying
the Town can not support more than 'x' number of people by the year
2000, as a back up for the Town's position, Chairman Ward questioned if
• a community can fix maximum limits.
Mr. Park advised the Town can determine what population it wants for its
Town; that is part of the local policy making responsibility of coastal
government. If you are to win in Land Use Court Cases; you must show
your city has established a policy which is somehow related to a normal,
natural process of running your Town in determining as a community goal
that you want to be such a Town. It is not possible for us to come in
and tell you that you can not accommodate 'x' number of people in your
Town; you must decide what kind of a Town you want, continued Mr. Park.
Continuing, Mr. Park said, in terms of population, you have a range
flexibility as a Town in establishing where within that range you want
to be. In the new planning requirements of the State, there is a
provision that says "What is your Town going to do to direct population
away from coastal high hazard areas?" It opens up a whole opportunity
for the Town to say "We do not want to encourage people to live in a
coastal high hazard environment" which opens the door for you to say we
are going to do this to limit our population because of the storm
potential in this area and the potential danger to life and limb. It is
a kind of urban growth management where you have flexibility in how you
will do that for growth management. You can say, "There are certain
things about this community we want to preserve; they are; and we want
to preserve them for these reasons", continued Mr. Park. You state that
in your Town's plan and your rational policy making process you used to
arrive at that plan. Those things are very important factors supporting
40 the Town's position to down zone property, deny building permits or do
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other things because the Town can point to their comprehensive plan and
say, "This is the locally generated goal for our community and therefore
it is valid", continued Mr. Park.
Mr. Toshner noted that our Town Attorney has won many decisions which is
an indication that the policies and the positions the Town has taken
have been upheld by the courts.
Vice Chairman Leng stated Mr. Park had explained what the Town really
has to prove is the reason we want this for our Town is that because
with A-1-A the way it is, and the way we want it to be, we can only
evacuate so many people; this is why we can not see the possibility of
much more growth in Highland Beach.
When Mr. Waldman questioned if there could be a page to preface the
Town's whole program to give the reasons at the very beginning as to why
the Town is doing this, Mr. Park stated we do not want to go to the
front of the program and say we are going to do all those things without
laying the groundwork; it is more orderly to say that "As a result of
all these things you just read about our policies and position, we feel
our Town should be this".
Mr. Toshner said when the Members receive the Future Land Use Element
• within the next 60 days, they will see that it is significantly more
detailed than any plan they have ever had before; Chapter 9J-5 is forc-
ing the communities to take a much more comprehensive plan.
Chairman Ward noted that the Gee & Jenson water report, as well as his
own study, have been based on present zoning in regard to the number of
units in the year 2000. If we revise the figures and say we will only
build 'x' number of units therefore our population will increase by 'x'
number of people, can you give us our maximum limits on the water, sew-
age, etc., so we can go to them with a concrete provisional policy,
asked Chairman Ward.
Mr. Park said it would be wrong to set arbitrary numbers saying this is
what we want to reach; you have to approach it from a logical direction
in terms of relationships of land uses and densities, there should be a
degree of uniformity for compatibility in land use relationship. You
work back from a standpoint of planning theory and community technology
to say "These are things that would help us meet the limitation of the
services without extraordinary efforts or inordinate expenditures of
funds". That would be more desirable. Plus the fact, by reducing
population in the coastal high hazard areas (which the State says you
should do) is another reason to look at ways we can curtail future
growth in our community, continued Mr. Park.
Town Attorney Sliney stated he has been involved in zoning for a number
• of years and there are a lot more tools to work with for growth
management now then there were in the early 70's. Every time the State
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sets down new policies, you use that in your plan to justify what you
want to do; the growth management plan itself is a justification and all
these amplifications really help you, continued Attorney Sliney.
Mr. Toshner stated that we have to be aware that all the plans will be
compiled so that the Planning Council will come up with a future land
use element plan; I have some concerns because they will be coming out
here in a few months with performance standards criteria that they would
like all local plans to consider so -that conflicts are not created. If
Highland Beach is incompatible with Boca, or Delray, or Palm Beach
County, they can ask that your plan not be certified; we have another
agency that can tell us we really did not adhere strictly to the
standards of criteria --go back and try again. Mr. Toshner said he is
confident that Highland Beach can get the support of the Planning
Council, Regional Planning Council, the County Planning Council, the
County Planning Department because that compatibility will exist. But,
the people who are going to challenge us are not going to be the County
or probably even the State. We will comply with all the State criteria,
continued Mr. Toshner.
Mr. Park noted that the role of the Planning Council is primarily to
keep someone from doing more than they should do (exceeding the stand of
• other communities). The Planning Council involvement will help Highland
Beach because they will, in effect, set limits. Their coordination of
community plans will help you, continued Mr. Park.
When Mrs. Leng asked if Mr. Park will review the studies prepared by the
Planning Board Members and then tell the Members that is what they are
looking for, Mr. Park said you can tell me what you want to do and I can
help you put it into the language.
Chairman Ward noted each Member was assigned a certain area of research
in order to make an independent study which will be compared with the
Gee and Jenson studies which will eventually lead to a policy on each
particular element.
Mr. Park said that you are in fact required to state what your services
and standards are. If you exceed the anticipated growth, you can set
your standards to whatever reasonable level you want and work your way
back to whatever actions are necessary to make sure you do not exceed
that number.
Vice Chairman Leng noted that Highland Beach is different than most of
the communities in that it is a barrier island therefore it can not be
included with the other communities. Mr. Park said that is true and it
makes room for Highland Beach to treat that subject in great detail.
In reviewing the Sanitary Sewer, Solid Waste, Drainage, Potable Water
• and Natural Groundwater Aquifer Recharge Element, Chairman Ward asked
Mr. Park to discuss the limited storm water management system.
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Mr. Park said A-1-A's drainage is virtually nonexistent; the water lays
there until it soaks into the ground. Most of the systems are privately
owned and maintained, continued Mr. Park.
When Mr. Gregerson asked if it would be possible to use temporary sump
pumps to drain A-1-A when necessary, Mr. Park said he did not think that
would be viewed favorably. Mr. Gregerson questioned how the Town is to
remove the water from A-1-A after a heavy storm.
Mr. Toshner said they are planners; they are not engineers. We gather
the information; you go to your engineers and have them help you under-
stand the length and breath of the issue.
Mr. Park said the comprehensive plan is not the place to deal with this
problem. We have to identify the problems and say the Town will look
into it and then try to resolve it. You decide what you want to ado
pt
opt
in this comprehensive plan and include that in the ordinance.
In discussing the Solid Waste section, members were advised that the
State will reject policies and objectives if they are not reasonable.
Mr. Park said the Town has to sayit is going to do
g 9 certain things by
certain dates (reduce or increase, add something and put numbers down);
all those are important parts of the Town policies.
• Members were advised that the National Geodetic Verticle Data is a
standardized nationwide measure of determining a uniform map of
established elevations so all communities operate on the same basis
rather than each community using its own zero elevation.
Regarding the Flood Insurance Rate Map, Members were informed that is
considered the bible in determining flood insurance. The flood insur-
ance program called for every community in Palm Beach County to redo
their flood plan management program or the flood plan insurance will
expire sometime this month. If you do not have a new flood plan
management ordinance in effect, you need to adopt one. said Mr. Park.
When Chairman Ward questioned the 100 year storm, Mr. Park said that is
the basis of preparing the map; it is a critical storm that we will
establish regulations to meet. The most vulnerable area would be the
storm search area which is Zone B (the beach) and zone A would be the
second most vulnerable area.
Mr. Gregerson noted that paragraph 3 reads "Design capacity of the
existing Town maintained storm sewer system should be determined and the
system should be accurately located an mapped in order to facilitate
maintenance". It would be an expensive job --we don't know where our
storm system is. Mr. Park said it will take money to get knowledge of
what we have and what will happen during a 100 year storm. You set a
policy to determine what those conditions are and state that you will
. make a survey and by 1992 you will begin a program; we have to know when
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you will do something about it, continued Mr. Park. Now, you know the
objective, the Town will correct the storm water system and maximize the
use but we have to say by when; that is what you need to tell me (do we
give it a high priority and do something about it in 2 or 5 years),
continued Mr. Park.
In discussing the water study, Chairman Ward question what would happen
to the pressure if Boca Hi were to have another high rise with 220
units. Mr. Toshner said Chairman Ward would have to take this matter up
with the Town's engineers (James Montgomery). Chairman Ward said the
pressure is something the Board has to address.
Mr. Toshner said the draft elements should be given to the Town's
engineers and they should feel free to comment on Gee and Jenson's
work. When Chairman Ward asked about the Town's engineers attending a
meeting at which the Gee and Jenson representatives would be present,
Mr. Toshner said the engineers should make comments on the draft
elements and attend one meeting of the Planning Board.
Mr. Toshner said the elements are now in the preliminary review and we
are going on the basis that we will use the best available information.
I think you will want the engineers to look at the elements and say
technically it is correct.
• Chairman Ward noted the next Regular Meeting of the Planning Board will
be held on Wednesday, April 13, 1988, at 9:30 A.M., with the agenda
closing on Tuesday, March 29, 1988, at noon.
Attorney Sliney said he would check into the matter of public hearings
regarding the three zoning issues and he would work out a timetable.
Mr. Toshner said that seven days in advance of the next Regular Meeting
of the Planning Board, Members will receive two more elements and then
we will have to schedule a Special Meeting and more time to cover more
ground. We are probably 65 top 70% complete with everything. Within 60
days, you will have a package. Mr. Toshner and Mr. Park are planning to
attend the Planning Board Meeting on April 13, 1988, at which time the
Board will allow two hours for discussing the remaining elements.
Upon proper MOTION by MR. GREGERSON/MR. WALDMAN, Chairman Ward adjourned
the Regular Meeting of the Planning Board at 12:15 P.M.
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APPROVED:
J. Ward, Chairman
Amelie Leng, Vice Cha rman
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