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• TOWN OF HIGHLAND BEACH, FLORIDA
PLANNING BOARD
SPECIAL MEETING
Wednesday, August 7, 1985 9:30 A. M.
Chairman Irving S. Saunders called the Special Meeting of the
Planning Board of the Town of Highland Beach to order at 9:35 a.m.
in the Town Commission Chambers at Town Hall.
The recording secretary called the roll: Chairman Irving S.
Saunders, Vice.Chairman Doris R. Rome, Regular Member John Ward,
First Alternate Member Amelie Leng, and Second Alternate Member
Chris H. Bartlett. Regular Member Marvin A. Waldman was absent.
Also present were: Town Attorney Thomas E. Sliney, Town Manager
Hugh D. Williams, Building Official Bruce Sutherland, Acting
Recording Secretary Elizabeth L. Kolek, Attorney Stephen Moss, Roy
Brown, Laurenz Schmidt, and members of the general public.
Chairman Saunders stated the purpose of the Special Meeting:
A SPECIAL MEETING HAS BEEN CALLED BY THE PLANNING BOARD, TOWN OF
• HIGHLAND BEACH, FLORIDA, TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION AND REVIEW OF
ROYAL HIGHLANDS.
Attorney Stephen Moss (partner of law firm Holland and Knight)
representing the owner and developer, Teron International Inc.,
introduced their architects (from Canada) who were requested by
the Planning Board at their 7/10/85 meeting to be present today,
Mr. Roy Brown and Mr. Laurenz Schmidt.
Mr. Moss presented a recent survey of the Royal Highlands property
(requested by the Planning Board) to Attorney Thomas E. Sliney.
Mr. Moss stated that the acreage of the property is 5.2 acres,
more or less, in answer to Mrs. Rome's question.
Mr. Brown and Mr. Schmidt introduced two alternative plans for the
Planning Boards' review today. Mr. Schmidt described the three
alternative plans:
NO. 1---The original plan, 156 units, is presently on file in
the Town's Building Department.
NO. 2---Scheme "B" --- Consists of two tower buildings, 13
stories each, plus 2-level parking at ground level, 78 two -
bedroom units in each tower (total 156 units), 130 feet high
240 feet long by 60 feet deep, three elevator cores, each
unit has an east and west view and two balconies (20 ft. x 8
ft. on east side and 22 ft. x 6 ft. on west side. There are
shuttered windows on every other floor which gives the viewer
a feeling of a much lower building.
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NO. 3---Scheme "C"---Consists of two buildings (Mizner
effect), graduated from 13 stories at the highest level and
7 stories at lowest level, with an 176 foot aperture between
the two buildings, 78 two -bedroom units in each building, a
total of 156 units. Each building is 320 feet long by 60
feet deep, with 2-level parking at ground level, and has four
elevator cores. Each unit has an east and west exposure and
two balconies. There is 36 feet from the North Building to
the North boundary and 51 feet 10 inches from the South
Building to the South property line.
Mr. Brown stated that Scheme C has more potential for landscapiong
that enhances and conceals the building.
Mr. Schmidt stated that Teron International withdrew the plan
submitted earlier in the year which was not acceptable to the
Planning Board and has provided three comparable schemes to comply
with the Court Order of 156 units.
Town Manager Hugh Williams said that an up -date by the Town's
• surveying consultants, Coastal Technology of Vero Beach, Florida,
was not completed yet and that the survey probably will affect the
Town.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS CALLED FOR A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
Upon reconvening at 10:55 a.m., Town Manager Williams discussed
the vegetation line, the Coastal Construction Control Line, showed
how the "foot -print" of the buildings would sit on the site in
relation to the seawall, and demonstrated (with a diagram) how
seawalls are affected by wave action, which would topple them. He
stated that the D.N.R., in an effort to prevent seawall damage and
building failure, encourages the use of buttresses and that a
permit must be obtained from the D.N.R. prior to installation.
Mr. Williams stated that at this site, vegetation is now 35 feet,
not 50 feet, from the Coastal Construction Control Line and that
the plans submitted should be reevaluated as per court order and
any danger of the building falling over be taken into account.
Mr. Schmidt stated that as experts in their field they have taken
all such facts into consideration in their plans regarding
toppling action and stated that pilings go into cap rock beneath
the building to carry the mass of the building. He also stated
that time is money and economics is an important factor making it
economically unfeasable to build a 120 unit project at this site.
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Mr. Ward stated that he had been studying allowable density in the
nearby communities, and they could still make money on them, in
comparison to the 15 units per acre (maximum) allowed by the Town
of Highland Beach, such as:
Boca Raton 20 units per acre
Delray Beach 11 units per acre
Boynton Beach 10.8 units per acre
Mr. Ward also stated that it is no fault of the Planning Board or
the Town Commission that five years have elapsed since the court
stipulation.
When the developers representatives asked what the Planning Board
wanted of them since they were confused, Chairman Saunders felt
that the board should not dictate to the developer because the
developer owns the land and should present the plans within the
allowable limits but the consensus of the board was that no one
liked the mass and would like density reduced.
• After much discussion, it was mutually decided that more
information was needed, in addition to the Town's survey, and all
the facts from the experts studied and analized further before any
decision or recommendations could be made. The Planning Board
felt their obligation was to the Town.
Mr. Schmidt's closing comments were that it would not be practical
for them to attend next weeks Planning Board meeting due to what
the Town Manager said, that Teron was going to lose the lawsuit so
they should compromise somewhere between 80 and 156 units. He
felt they would go before the judge and take their chances.
At this point, he still had no idea as to what direction the
Planning Board would like them to go.
MOTION was made by Doris Rome, seconded by Irving Saunders, that
Teron International should come to the Planning Board meeting on
August 14, 1985 with the plans they presented on April 10, 1985,
which included 120 units, 4 buildings, with the 20 ft. "wind
tunnel" removed, so the Planning Board could review the revised
plan, as well as the unchanged plan.
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Upon being polled the vote was as follows:
Amelie
Leng
AYE
Chris
Bartlett
AYE
Doris
Rome
AYE
John Ward
AYE
Irving
Saunders
AYE
Mr. Schmidt asked if the Planning Board would then accept the
plan.
Mrs. Rome stated they would review the revised plan first.
Mr. Schmidt then stated that 120 units were not economical and the
plan was withdrawn and they are not willing to submit it again.
Attorney Moss reminded the Board that they objected to the
architectural design at the 4/10/85 presentation, not the density,
and said that this board was not giving a united message. As an
advisory board, it is going in different directions.
Attorney Sliney stated that motion just made was carried by a 5-0
vote of the board but was rejected by Teron's representatives,
which he said is their perogative. He stated that this board
would like less units, less space between buildings, and that the
Board would like to review what they saw before.
At this time, Mr. Williams received a telephone message verifying
the Town's surveyors report to be 5.1 acres for the Royal High-
lands project, to the mean high water line.
Mr. Schmidt stated that because of this undocumented information,
before meeting, all must do their homeowrk and also stated that
reality (referring to the Court Order) cannot be negotiated and
still exists.
Chairman Saunders invited the representatives to attend the
Planning Board meeting on August 14, 1985 so that they can proceed
to build something.
Attorney Moss stated that reports and surveys will be distributed
at that meeting and that they will be at the meeting.
Attorney Sliney stated that the Town is not bound, that the "foot-
print" can be varied, and that the Board is looking for less
density.
This concluded the discussion regarding Royal Highlands at this
meeting.
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Chairman Saunders announced that the Board will proceed to discuss
the second item on todays agenda:
DISCUSS RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COMMISSION THE APPOINTMENT OF FIRST
ALTERNATE AMELIE LENG AS A REGULAR MEMBER TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
After some discussion, MOTION was made by Doris Rome, seconded by
Irving Saunders, that the Town Commission appoint the present
First Alternate Member, Amelie Leng, to the Regular Member vacancy
on the Planning Board.
Upon being polled, the Board voted as follows:
Chris Bartlett AYE
John Ward AYE
Irving Saunders AYE
Doris Rome AYE
Chairman Saunders asked the recording secretary to notify the Town
Commission of this Motion by the Planning Board.
• There being no further business to discuss at this Special Meeting
of the Planning Board, MOTION was made by Doris Rome, seconded by
Irving Saunders, to adjourn the meeting. All voted AYE.
Chairman Saunders adjourned the Sp� MytetjofT"at ,/4: 10 p.m.
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